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![]() Home | What's New | Photos | Histories | Sources | Reports | Calendar | Cemeteries | Headstones | Statistics | Surnames Brookhaven - South Haven BLOG Note: Living people and people who may still be living have been "privatized." Only their name appears here. |
Name | Samuel Carman | |
Prefix | Captain | |
Suffix | Jr. [ii]† ^ | |
Born | 31 Jan 1789 | South Haven, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
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Gender | Male | |
Elected | 1828 | Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
Town Trustee | ||
Religion | Abt 1828 | South Haven (Presbyterian Church), Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
a Presbyterian | ||
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Elected | 1849 | Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
Town Trustee and President of the Board of Trustees | ||
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Census | 1850 | South Haven, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
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Occupation | 1850 | Fire Place (now Brookhaven Hamlet), Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
landlord | ||
Possessions | 1850 | Fire Place (now Brookhaven Hamlet), Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
real estate valued at $20,000 | ||
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Census | 1860 | South Haven, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
Occupation | South Haven, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
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mill owner, farmer and inn keeper | ||
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Occupation | 1860 | South Haven, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
farmer | ||
Possessions | 1860 [9] | |
real estate valued at $17,000 and personal property valued at $6,000 | ||
Died | 27 Feb 1869 | South Haven, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
Buried | South Haven (Carman Cemetery), Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
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Person ID | I56 | Brookhaven & South Haven Hamlets |
Last Modified | 10 Nov 2013 |
Father | Samuel Carman, Sr. [i]^, b. Abt 1740, {Hempstead, Queens (now Nassau), NY} ![]() ![]() | |
Mother | Theodosi Latting, >, b. 7 Oct 1753, d. 31 May 1811, South Haven, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() | |
Married | 30 Apr 1777 | Hempstead, Queens (now Nassau), NY ![]() |
Family ID | F17 | Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family | Catherine Homan, †^, b. 17 Aug 1795, South Haven, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() ![]() | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Married | 26 Jan 1812 | Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY ![]() |
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Family ID | F22 | Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Photos | ![]() | Captain Samuel Carman, Jr. |
![]() | Carman's Mills SH02: The north side of the mills, looking south. The saw and planning mill is to the right; the grist mill is to the left. |
Documents | South Haven Mills and Carman Inn Data Sheet Members of the Carman Family for several generations operated mills, an inn, store and post office in South Haven, New York, none of which now exist. This is Brookhaven/South Haven Historic Site SH02. | |
![]() | Daniel Webster's Big Trout This 1895 article from the Brooklyn Eagle provides one account of the legendary tale of Daniel Webster and the trout caught in the Carman's River. Modern telling of this story has Daniel Webster catching the fish, but we have not found any 19th century accounts where Webster is the actual fisherman. If one were to read just the headlines, one can see how the legend was beginning to develop. But the actual article only indicates that he purchased the trout, at an extraordinary cost. Also of interest in this article is the dispute between landowners—in this case the Suffolk Club and the Tangier Smith family—over who actually owned the Carman's River. This was a dispute that continued into the 20th century. | |
![]() | Theodosie Carman Smith, Hannah Carman Smith, and William E. T. Smith vs. Samuel Carman Jr., in Chauncery Court, 1822 In 1821, less than a year before Samuel Carmen Sr. died, he gifted his daughter Theodosie Carman Smith a large parcel of land in South Haven, NY. [See]. Samuel Sr. had a will prepared in 1815. In 1818, their brother Samuel Jr. persuaded Samuel Sr. to sell to him much of Samuel Sr.’s substantial estate for a very modest sum. Theodosie and her sister Hannah (as well as Hannah’s husband William Smith ‘Tangier’) filed a case in New York Chancery Court on 08 Aug 1822, less than a year after Theodosia had received her large parcel, charging that their brother Samuel Jr, had exercised an "improper and undutiful influence" over their father "for the manifest purpose of benefitting himself" and asked to have the 1818 deed declared null and void. A little over two years later, the court returned its decree in the matter. The decree dismissed the case. This document is of some interest especially in that it details the value of Samuel Carman Sr.’s estate. |
Headstones | ![]() | #79.04.1 Samuel Carman, Jr. .. was the sole male heir to his father's estate. He became a prominent businessman in his own right. Said to be very personable, he promoted his hotel and the Carman lands along the river as a destination for sportsman. Eventually, he leased (later the family sold), a large tract to a group of wealthy New York City sportsmen who established the Suffolk Club. He was active in politics, and for many year was a Trustee of the Town of Brookhaven, serving for a while as its president. Plot: 04 |
![]() | #79.04.2. Samuel Carman Jr. gravestone restored .. sometime after 2003, a large tree fell in the cemetery, smashing his gravestone. With the valuable assistance of the Suffolk County Parks Department, the tree was removed. Fortunately careful excavation work by the volunteers working to restore the cemetery were able to recover the pieces, and the stone mason was able to repair the monument—albeit not to its orginaly condition. Plot: 04 |
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