- [S3] 1850 Census, p. 114.
- [S91] Cemetery: Barteau, Stone # 29.
- [S3] 1850 Census, p, 114.
- [S61] 1860 Census, p. 205.
- [S59] Munsell's Suffolk Co. History: 1882, https://archive.org/details/cu31924028834848., p. 78. Chapter VIII. "The Record of Suffolk County's Volunteers in the Civil War.".
Records: "Charles E. Snow, Southaven, navy."
- [S1097] New York, Town Clerks' Registers of Men Who Served in the Civil War, ca 1861-1865, http://interactive.ancestry.com/1964/31513_216246-., No "Snow" found..
No "Snow," Charles or otherwise, was found in the Register for the Town of Brookhaven, NY.
- [S782] Email: Richard Thomas, Charles E. Snow of "Southaven"; Email; 16 October 2014; John Deitz.
Munsell, 1882, asserts that Charles E. Snow of Southaven was in the Navy during the Civil War.
The legislature passed a law to create a Bureau of Military Statistics on December 20, 1862. The Bureau was established to collect and preserve an "authentic sketch of every person from this State who has volunteered into the service of the general government" since April 15,1861. (It also collected information on draftees.)
One way the Bureau did that was to publish six volumes on New York military men: New York, Registers of Officers and Enlisted Men Mustered into Federal Service, 1861-1865.
The first three volumes included information collected up to Jun 1, 1865, who were still in the service. The next two volumes was information on those who had returned, and the final volume provided information on the people who had died.
The entry for Charles E. Snow says he was in the Colorado regiment, and seems to indicate he was also in the Brooklyn Phalanx.
I thought it might say “Colored” instead of “Colorado” but as the word is repeated, and looks like “Colorado” both times, probably not. Also, if the person is black or mulatto, a “B” or “M” is placed in the “Color” column.
He entered the service on 1 Apr 1864 as a seaman for a term of three years.
As he was a seaman, I think the word is actually “Colorado”and is meant to indicate that Charles E. Snow served on the ship “Colorado.” There was a USS Colorado in the Civil War.[See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Colorado_(1856)]
So he was a volunteer of the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County. He was 18, and his place of birth was Kings County.
But was he a Brooklyn volunteer to whom the Town of Brookhaven paid a bounty in order to meet its quota or was he “Charles F. Snow”of South Haven?
(I don’t know what criteria were used in filling out the form. Did they list the men according to their place of residence when they enlisted? Or, if a Town paid a bounty for a substitute, was the person listed instead under the name of the Town that paid the bounty?
August 21st 1862 it was voted at a meeting at Coram that the supervisor should raise money by a loan and pay bounty of $150 to each volunteer who would enlist to the credit of the town. [Each town had been given a quota that it had to fulfill.] . . . it was thought that a draft might be necessary to fill the quotas. . . .Enlistments, however, were numerous enough to prevent a draft, and, the quotas of many other towns being filled, the surplus of recruits was obtainable at a lower bounty than had been voted by the town. The supervisor at the time---who, by the way, was Nathaniel Miller, to whose kindness we are indebted for many times relating to this subject---went to New York on the 5th of November, and was there able to make up the deficiency in the town’s quota by securing 107 three-years men in Corcoran’s Irish brigade at $80 each, thereby making a considerable saving to the town.
Under the draft which took place in 1863 the town made no effort to provide for its citizens who were drafted, as the act of that year released any drafted man who paid $300.
A special town meeting . . . was held on the 18th of February, at which it was voted that $60,000 should be raised to secure the town’s quota of men for the call lately made. A town committee was appointed to collect and expend the money in employing men and finding substitutes in case of a draft. These committeemen with the supervisor spent much time in New York on this business, but as many other towns were offering larger bounties the work progressed slowly. On May 11th the draft occurred, taking from Brookhaven 201 men. Through the efforts of the men engaged in that work, substitutes were obtained for those who desired and, with the assistance furnished by the town, could pay for them.
Here are the Charles Snows who might have been about 18 in 1864 (allowing from some inaccuracies in recording of ages):
Brooklyn Ward 17 District 1, Kings, New York
Groveland, Livingston, New York
Chas H Snow
Chesterfield, Essex, New York
Ausable, Clinton, New York
Charles K Snow
Butternuts, Otsego, New York
Salem, Washington, New York
Brooklyn Ward 3 District 2, Kings, New York
Hamilton, Madison, New York
Root, Montgomery, New York
Brookhaven, Suffolk, New York
Charles T Snow
Vernon, Oneida, New York
Buffalo Ward 5, Erie, New York
Charles A Snow
Hanover, Chautauqua, New York
Volney, Oswego, New York
We can ignore the two born in Pennsylvania, as the record says the person who joined the Navy was born in Kings.
That leaves, however, a person of exactly the right age who was living in Brooklyn in 1860. If we could show that the person living in Brooklyn in 1860 was “Charles E. Snow,” then we would have good reason to believe that Munsell was wrong.
Munsell was just the editor/publisher, of course. The chapter on the Town of Brookhaven was written by R. M. Bayles, but the list of Civil War Union soldiers is in the “History of Suffolk County” section, so it isn’t clear how the information was obtained and verified by the editor.
Benjamin Hutchinson, Town Clerk, didn’t fill out the forms completely that he was sent by the Bureau of Military Statistics (other Town Clerks on Long Island did a much better job), so Munsell couldn’t have obtained the information from the forms filled out by the Town Clerk.
The state’s records have more detail, but the ones I’ve seen don’t give the village or hamlet where the enlistees and draftees were living.
The authors could have obtained the name “Charles E. Snow” from the referenced document, but if so, how did they assign “Southaven” to“Charles E. Snow”? Did one of the authors working on the book have additional documents or were they just guessing?
If the name had been correct--“Charles F. Snow” instead of“Charles E. Snow,” then, even if it was a guess, we would be inclined to think it was likely correct. The middle initial is, however, wrong.
So I tried to trace “Chas Snow” of Brooklyn.
He was the son of Lorenzo and Juliet E. Snow. (Lorenzo born in Massachusetts and Juliet born in Connecticut.) In the 1850 Census, their four-year-old son is shown as “Chs L. Snow.” In the 1860 Census, he appears simply as “Chas Snow,” age 14. He’s still living at home. In the New York State Census of 1892, he is still in Brooklyn, and his name is “Charles L. Snow.” As the middle initial appears as “L”twice, “L” is likely his correct middle initial.
This would seem to improve the chances of the person who served in the Civil War being the Charles Snow of South Haven.
However, the attached document does state that Charles was born in Kings.
Did William Snow, the shoemaker, and Amelia, who came to South Haven before 1850, live in Kings County before they moved east? If he had, then we could be confident “Charles E. Snow” was actually “Charles F.Snow” of South Haven, but I can’t find any information on William Snow’s ancestry or his life before he lived in Fire Place/South Haven.
If he bought property, then moved onto it, then his original deed might reveal where he lived at the time of the purchase.
Whether one lists Charles Snow on the plaque depends on whether one thinks the authors of Munsell’s book were diligent in tracing down where those who served in the Civil War had resided. They would have been working in 1881-1882, I expect, so they probably could have made those determinations if they were committed to being thorough.
If are able to show definitely that any of the following is wrong, then we would have a basis to not trusting Munsell.
Ebenezer Albin, Brookhaven, 2ndcav.; r.
William Carll (colored),Brookhaven, navy; r.
Charles A. Hawkins, Brookhaven,158th; r.
John S. Edge, Brookhaven,127th. [John S. Hedge, Bellport]
Frederick B. Hedge, Brookhaven,35th.
David H. Hedge, Brookhaven, 13thcav. [Bellport]
Elbert B. Rose, Brookhaven, 145th.
Henry Schoonmaker, Brookhaven, 2ndcav.
George R. Smith, Brookhaven, 2ndcav.; d p, Andersonville.
Gilbert Miller, Southaven; m.
Silas H. Moore, Southaven, 170th;r.
Edward Rowland, Southaven,k. ?
Charles E. Snow, Southaven, navy.
Albert Wilkinson, Southaven, 145th;r.
We were able to raise strong doubts about “Edward Rowland.”
Also, John S. Edge should be John S. Hedge, and both John S.Hedge and David H. Hedge definitely lived in Bellport. So Munsell was wrong on that. However, they may have lived in East Bellport which some may have considered to be West Brookhaven.
We haven’t yet been able to show that Munsell is generally untrustworthy. We’ve based our conclusions on an absence of evidence, but “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.”
Based on Dr. Thomas's report, the committee responsible for determining the names to be included on the Brookhaven Hamlet Civil War Memorial plaque decided in 2014 that the Charles F. Snow of South Haven was the Charles E. Snow of the Civil War records, and therefore should be placed on the plaque.
- [S1091] New York, Registers of Officers and Enlisted Men Mustered into Federal Service, 1861-1865.